[dpdk-dev] mk: added make target to print out system info

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John McNamara March 24, 2015, 2:52 p.m. UTC
  Added a 'make system_info' target to print out system info
related to DPDK. This is intended as output that can be
attached to bug reports.
---
 mk/rte.sdkroot.mk | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)
  

Comments

Neil Horman March 24, 2015, 5 p.m. UTC | #1
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 02:52:59PM +0000, John McNamara wrote:
> Added a 'make system_info' target to print out system info
> related to DPDK. This is intended as output that can be
> attached to bug reports.
> ---
>  mk/rte.sdkroot.mk | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
> index e8423b0..b477d09 100644
> --- a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
> +++ b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
> @@ -123,3 +123,36 @@ examples examples_clean:
>  %:
>  	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkconfig.mk checkconfig
>  	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkbuild.mk $@
> +
> +.PHONY: system_info
> +system_info:
> +	$(Q)echo
> +	$(Q)echo "CC version"
> +	$(Q)echo "=========="
> +	$(Q)$(CC) --version
> +	$(Q)echo
> +
> +	$(Q)echo "DPDK version"
> +	$(Q)echo "============"
> +	$(Q)$(MAKE) showversion
> +	$(Q)echo
> +
> +	$(Q)echo "Git commit"
> +	$(Q)echo "=========="
> +	$(Q)git log --pretty=format:'%H' -1
> +	$(Q)echo
> +
> +	$(Q)echo "Uname"
> +	$(Q)echo "====="
> +	$(Q)uname -srvmpio
> +	$(Q)echo
> +
> +	$(Q)echo "Hugepages"
> +	$(Q)echo "========="
> +	$(Q)grep -i huge /proc/meminfo
> +	$(Q)echo
> +
> +	$(Q)tools/cpu_layout.py
> +
> +	$(Q)tools/dpdk_nic_bind.py --status
> +	$(Q)echo
> -- 
> 1.8.1.4
> 
> 
Nak, for a few reasons:

1) While this target is in a common makefile, at least some of the information
it gathers is operating system specfic (e.g. /proc/meminfo).  This isn't going
to work on BSD, or other operating systems that we might support in the future

2) This is tied to the build system.  Theres no guarantee that users will
diagnose problems only on the system that they built the DPDK on.  

A better solution might be to simply document the sort of information that a bug
reporter is expected to gather, along with some sample tools for doing so.
There are numerous tools to get the above information, both in isolation and in
aggregate.

Neil
  
Olivier Matz March 25, 2015, 3:06 p.m. UTC | #2
Hi,

On 03/24/2015 06:00 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 02:52:59PM +0000, John McNamara wrote:
>> Added a 'make system_info' target to print out system info
>> related to DPDK. This is intended as output that can be
>> attached to bug reports.
>> ---
>>   mk/rte.sdkroot.mk | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>   1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
>> index e8423b0..b477d09 100644
>> --- a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
>> +++ b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
>> @@ -123,3 +123,36 @@ examples examples_clean:
>>   %:
>>   	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkconfig.mk checkconfig
>>   	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkbuild.mk $@
>> +
>> +.PHONY: system_info
>> +system_info:
>> +	$(Q)echo
>> +	$(Q)echo "CC version"
>> +	$(Q)echo "=========="
>> +	$(Q)$(CC) --version
>> +	$(Q)echo
>> +
>> +	$(Q)echo "DPDK version"
>> +	$(Q)echo "============"
>> +	$(Q)$(MAKE) showversion
>> +	$(Q)echo
>> +
>> +	$(Q)echo "Git commit"
>> +	$(Q)echo "=========="
>> +	$(Q)git log --pretty=format:'%H' -1
>> +	$(Q)echo
>> +
>> +	$(Q)echo "Uname"
>> +	$(Q)echo "====="
>> +	$(Q)uname -srvmpio
>> +	$(Q)echo
>> +
>> +	$(Q)echo "Hugepages"
>> +	$(Q)echo "========="
>> +	$(Q)grep -i huge /proc/meminfo
>> +	$(Q)echo
>> +
>> +	$(Q)tools/cpu_layout.py
>> +
>> +	$(Q)tools/dpdk_nic_bind.py --status
>> +	$(Q)echo
>> --
>> 1.8.1.4
>>
>>
> Nak, for a few reasons:
>
> 1) While this target is in a common makefile, at least some of the information
> it gathers is operating system specfic (e.g. /proc/meminfo).  This isn't going
> to work on BSD, or other operating systems that we might support in the future
>
> 2) This is tied to the build system.  Theres no guarantee that users will
> diagnose problems only on the system that they built the DPDK on.
>
> A better solution might be to simply document the sort of information that a bug
> reporter is expected to gather, along with some sample tools for doing so.
> There are numerous tools to get the above information, both in isolation and in
> aggregate.

I agree with Neil that the Makefile is probably not the best place to
put that because the target machine may not be the build machine. What
about doing the same in a script? Therefore it could be embedded and
executed on the target.

Neil, you talk about tools that do the same kind of things. What tool
are you thinking about? The problem of using external tools is that it
adds a dependency with them.


Regards,
Olivier
  
Neil Horman March 25, 2015, 3:22 p.m. UTC | #3
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 04:06:10PM +0100, Olivier MATZ wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 03/24/2015 06:00 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
> >On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 02:52:59PM +0000, John McNamara wrote:
> >>Added a 'make system_info' target to print out system info
> >>related to DPDK. This is intended as output that can be
> >>attached to bug reports.
> >>---
> >>  mk/rte.sdkroot.mk | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>  1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)
> >>
> >>diff --git a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
> >>index e8423b0..b477d09 100644
> >>--- a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
> >>+++ b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
> >>@@ -123,3 +123,36 @@ examples examples_clean:
> >>  %:
> >>  	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkconfig.mk checkconfig
> >>  	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkbuild.mk $@
> >>+
> >>+.PHONY: system_info
> >>+system_info:
> >>+	$(Q)echo
> >>+	$(Q)echo "CC version"
> >>+	$(Q)echo "=========="
> >>+	$(Q)$(CC) --version
> >>+	$(Q)echo
> >>+
> >>+	$(Q)echo "DPDK version"
> >>+	$(Q)echo "============"
> >>+	$(Q)$(MAKE) showversion
> >>+	$(Q)echo
> >>+
> >>+	$(Q)echo "Git commit"
> >>+	$(Q)echo "=========="
> >>+	$(Q)git log --pretty=format:'%H' -1
> >>+	$(Q)echo
> >>+
> >>+	$(Q)echo "Uname"
> >>+	$(Q)echo "====="
> >>+	$(Q)uname -srvmpio
> >>+	$(Q)echo
> >>+
> >>+	$(Q)echo "Hugepages"
> >>+	$(Q)echo "========="
> >>+	$(Q)grep -i huge /proc/meminfo
> >>+	$(Q)echo
> >>+
> >>+	$(Q)tools/cpu_layout.py
> >>+
> >>+	$(Q)tools/dpdk_nic_bind.py --status
> >>+	$(Q)echo
> >>--
> >>1.8.1.4
> >>
> >>
> >Nak, for a few reasons:
> >
> >1) While this target is in a common makefile, at least some of the information
> >it gathers is operating system specfic (e.g. /proc/meminfo).  This isn't going
> >to work on BSD, or other operating systems that we might support in the future
> >
> >2) This is tied to the build system.  Theres no guarantee that users will
> >diagnose problems only on the system that they built the DPDK on.
> >
> >A better solution might be to simply document the sort of information that a bug
> >reporter is expected to gather, along with some sample tools for doing so.
> >There are numerous tools to get the above information, both in isolation and in
> >aggregate.
> 
> I agree with Neil that the Makefile is probably not the best place to
> put that because the target machine may not be the build machine. What
> about doing the same in a script? Therefore it could be embedded and
> executed on the target.
> 
A script would be fine, as long as its cased for tools available on every OS.

> Neil, you talk about tools that do the same kind of things. What tool
> are you thinking about? The problem of using external tools is that it
> adds a dependency with them.
> 
Yes, but how is that different from the above?  running cat /proc/meminfo has a
dependency on the existance of /proc/meminfo, which is involate on BSD.  Theres
another file there that hold simmilar memory information, though, or perhaps a
memstat tool (I cant recall which).  The point being, to have an appropriate bug
reporting tool like this, you need to determine what information you need, then
for each operating system you have to do the right things to get it, be that
read a file, run a tool, or some other operation. 

Neil

> 
> Regards,
> Olivier
> 
>
  
Olivier Matz March 25, 2015, 3:42 p.m. UTC | #4
On 03/25/2015 04:22 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 04:06:10PM +0100, Olivier MATZ wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 03/24/2015 06:00 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 02:52:59PM +0000, John McNamara wrote:
>>>> Added a 'make system_info' target to print out system info
>>>> related to DPDK. This is intended as output that can be
>>>> attached to bug reports.
>>>> ---
>>>>   mk/rte.sdkroot.mk | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>   1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
>>>> index e8423b0..b477d09 100644
>>>> --- a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
>>>> +++ b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
>>>> @@ -123,3 +123,36 @@ examples examples_clean:
>>>>   %:
>>>>   	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkconfig.mk checkconfig
>>>>   	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkbuild.mk $@
>>>> +
>>>> +.PHONY: system_info
>>>> +system_info:
>>>> +	$(Q)echo
>>>> +	$(Q)echo "CC version"
>>>> +	$(Q)echo "=========="
>>>> +	$(Q)$(CC) --version
>>>> +	$(Q)echo
>>>> +
>>>> +	$(Q)echo "DPDK version"
>>>> +	$(Q)echo "============"
>>>> +	$(Q)$(MAKE) showversion
>>>> +	$(Q)echo
>>>> +
>>>> +	$(Q)echo "Git commit"
>>>> +	$(Q)echo "=========="
>>>> +	$(Q)git log --pretty=format:'%H' -1
>>>> +	$(Q)echo
>>>> +
>>>> +	$(Q)echo "Uname"
>>>> +	$(Q)echo "====="
>>>> +	$(Q)uname -srvmpio
>>>> +	$(Q)echo
>>>> +
>>>> +	$(Q)echo "Hugepages"
>>>> +	$(Q)echo "========="
>>>> +	$(Q)grep -i huge /proc/meminfo
>>>> +	$(Q)echo
>>>> +
>>>> +	$(Q)tools/cpu_layout.py
>>>> +
>>>> +	$(Q)tools/dpdk_nic_bind.py --status
>>>> +	$(Q)echo
>>>> --
>>>> 1.8.1.4
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Nak, for a few reasons:
>>>
>>> 1) While this target is in a common makefile, at least some of the information
>>> it gathers is operating system specfic (e.g. /proc/meminfo).  This isn't going
>>> to work on BSD, or other operating systems that we might support in the future
>>>
>>> 2) This is tied to the build system.  Theres no guarantee that users will
>>> diagnose problems only on the system that they built the DPDK on.
>>>
>>> A better solution might be to simply document the sort of information that a bug
>>> reporter is expected to gather, along with some sample tools for doing so.
>>> There are numerous tools to get the above information, both in isolation and in
>>> aggregate.
>>
>> I agree with Neil that the Makefile is probably not the best place to
>> put that because the target machine may not be the build machine. What
>> about doing the same in a script? Therefore it could be embedded and
>> executed on the target.
>>
> A script would be fine, as long as its cased for tools available on every OS.
>
>> Neil, you talk about tools that do the same kind of things. What tool
>> are you thinking about? The problem of using external tools is that it
>> adds a dependency with them.
>>
> Yes, but how is that different from the above?  running cat /proc/meminfo has a
> dependency on the existance of /proc/meminfo, which is involate on BSD.  Theres
> another file there that hold simmilar memory information, though, or perhaps a
> memstat tool (I cant recall which).  The point being, to have an appropriate bug
> reporting tool like this, you need to determine what information you need, then
> for each operating system you have to do the right things to get it, be that
> read a file, run a tool, or some other operation.

Agree, there's no guarantee that /proc/some/file exists on a linux
distribution as there is no guarantee that an application is available.

For instance, using applications that are packaged in coreutils or
procps should not be an issue. But I would say that using applications
included in specific packages should be avoided, and in this case
the /proc interface can be better.

Regards,
Olivier
  
Neil Horman March 25, 2015, 5:22 p.m. UTC | #5
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 04:42:23PM +0100, Olivier MATZ wrote:
> On 03/25/2015 04:22 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
> >On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 04:06:10PM +0100, Olivier MATZ wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>On 03/24/2015 06:00 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
> >>>On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 02:52:59PM +0000, John McNamara wrote:
> >>>>Added a 'make system_info' target to print out system info
> >>>>related to DPDK. This is intended as output that can be
> >>>>attached to bug reports.
> >>>>---
> >>>>  mk/rte.sdkroot.mk | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>  1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)
> >>>>
> >>>>diff --git a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
> >>>>index e8423b0..b477d09 100644
> >>>>--- a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
> >>>>+++ b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
> >>>>@@ -123,3 +123,36 @@ examples examples_clean:
> >>>>  %:
> >>>>  	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkconfig.mk checkconfig
> >>>>  	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkbuild.mk $@
> >>>>+
> >>>>+.PHONY: system_info
> >>>>+system_info:
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo "CC version"
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo "=========="
> >>>>+	$(Q)$(CC) --version
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo
> >>>>+
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo "DPDK version"
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo "============"
> >>>>+	$(Q)$(MAKE) showversion
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo
> >>>>+
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo "Git commit"
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo "=========="
> >>>>+	$(Q)git log --pretty=format:'%H' -1
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo
> >>>>+
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo "Uname"
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo "====="
> >>>>+	$(Q)uname -srvmpio
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo
> >>>>+
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo "Hugepages"
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo "========="
> >>>>+	$(Q)grep -i huge /proc/meminfo
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo
> >>>>+
> >>>>+	$(Q)tools/cpu_layout.py
> >>>>+
> >>>>+	$(Q)tools/dpdk_nic_bind.py --status
> >>>>+	$(Q)echo
> >>>>--
> >>>>1.8.1.4
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Nak, for a few reasons:
> >>>
> >>>1) While this target is in a common makefile, at least some of the information
> >>>it gathers is operating system specfic (e.g. /proc/meminfo).  This isn't going
> >>>to work on BSD, or other operating systems that we might support in the future
> >>>
> >>>2) This is tied to the build system.  Theres no guarantee that users will
> >>>diagnose problems only on the system that they built the DPDK on.
> >>>
> >>>A better solution might be to simply document the sort of information that a bug
> >>>reporter is expected to gather, along with some sample tools for doing so.
> >>>There are numerous tools to get the above information, both in isolation and in
> >>>aggregate.
> >>
> >>I agree with Neil that the Makefile is probably not the best place to
> >>put that because the target machine may not be the build machine. What
> >>about doing the same in a script? Therefore it could be embedded and
> >>executed on the target.
> >>
> >A script would be fine, as long as its cased for tools available on every OS.
> >
> >>Neil, you talk about tools that do the same kind of things. What tool
> >>are you thinking about? The problem of using external tools is that it
> >>adds a dependency with them.
> >>
> >Yes, but how is that different from the above?  running cat /proc/meminfo has a
> >dependency on the existance of /proc/meminfo, which is involate on BSD.  Theres
> >another file there that hold simmilar memory information, though, or perhaps a
> >memstat tool (I cant recall which).  The point being, to have an appropriate bug
> >reporting tool like this, you need to determine what information you need, then
> >for each operating system you have to do the right things to get it, be that
> >read a file, run a tool, or some other operation.
> 
> Agree, there's no guarantee that /proc/some/file exists on a linux
> distribution as there is no guarantee that an application is available.
> 
Agreed.

> For instance, using applications that are packaged in coreutils or
> procps should not be an issue. But I would say that using applications
> included in specific packages should be avoided, and in this case
> the /proc interface can be better.
> 
Why?  We just agreed that there is no guarantee that a file exists in /proc, so
its no better or worse than using an application which may or may not be
installed.  If the file is available, then great, you can use it, but otherwise
you have to provide some alternate method for getting the data. Just not
collecting some of it in my mind makes such a script not worthwhile

All I'm saying here is that if we want to provide this functionality we need to
do one of the following:

1) Write a script (to remove ourselves from being bound to a build environment),
which codifies the data items we wish to collect for debugging.  For each items
we need a case statement of the form:
switch $PLATFORM {
	CASE BSD:
		<do bsd collection>
	CASE LINUX:
		<do linux collection>
	CASE OSV:
		<do osv collection>
}

Where each case either cats a file or runs an appropriate tool (making the
appropriate check for its avilability when needed).

Or

2) Document the kind of data that we need when debugging, and make suggestions
in said document for what types of tools/files might provide that data, and
leaving it up to users to do the collection on their own.

Given that we are likely to be talking about developers here, I'm inclined to go
with option 2, given that its less maintenence to keep up with.

Neil

> Regards,
> Olivier
> 
>
  
Olivier Matz March 25, 2015, 5:42 p.m. UTC | #6
On 03/25/2015 06:22 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 04:42:23PM +0100, Olivier MATZ wrote:
>> On 03/25/2015 04:22 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 04:06:10PM +0100, Olivier MATZ wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 03/24/2015 06:00 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 02:52:59PM +0000, John McNamara wrote:
>>>>>> Added a 'make system_info' target to print out system info
>>>>>> related to DPDK. This is intended as output that can be
>>>>>> attached to bug reports.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>   mk/rte.sdkroot.mk | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>   1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
>>>>>> index e8423b0..b477d09 100644
>>>>>> --- a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
>>>>>> +++ b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
>>>>>> @@ -123,3 +123,36 @@ examples examples_clean:
>>>>>>   %:
>>>>>>   	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkconfig.mk checkconfig
>>>>>>   	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkbuild.mk $@
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +.PHONY: system_info
>>>>>> +system_info:
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo "CC version"
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo "=========="
>>>>>> +	$(Q)$(CC) --version
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo "DPDK version"
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo "============"
>>>>>> +	$(Q)$(MAKE) showversion
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo "Git commit"
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo "=========="
>>>>>> +	$(Q)git log --pretty=format:'%H' -1
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo "Uname"
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo "====="
>>>>>> +	$(Q)uname -srvmpio
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo "Hugepages"
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo "========="
>>>>>> +	$(Q)grep -i huge /proc/meminfo
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +	$(Q)tools/cpu_layout.py
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +	$(Q)tools/dpdk_nic_bind.py --status
>>>>>> +	$(Q)echo
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 1.8.1.4
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Nak, for a few reasons:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) While this target is in a common makefile, at least some of the information
>>>>> it gathers is operating system specfic (e.g. /proc/meminfo).  This isn't going
>>>>> to work on BSD, or other operating systems that we might support in the future
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) This is tied to the build system.  Theres no guarantee that users will
>>>>> diagnose problems only on the system that they built the DPDK on.
>>>>>
>>>>> A better solution might be to simply document the sort of information that a bug
>>>>> reporter is expected to gather, along with some sample tools for doing so.
>>>>> There are numerous tools to get the above information, both in isolation and in
>>>>> aggregate.
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Neil that the Makefile is probably not the best place to
>>>> put that because the target machine may not be the build machine. What
>>>> about doing the same in a script? Therefore it could be embedded and
>>>> executed on the target.
>>>>
>>> A script would be fine, as long as its cased for tools available on every OS.
>>>
>>>> Neil, you talk about tools that do the same kind of things. What tool
>>>> are you thinking about? The problem of using external tools is that it
>>>> adds a dependency with them.
>>>>
>>> Yes, but how is that different from the above?  running cat /proc/meminfo has a
>>> dependency on the existance of /proc/meminfo, which is involate on BSD.  Theres
>>> another file there that hold simmilar memory information, though, or perhaps a
>>> memstat tool (I cant recall which).  The point being, to have an appropriate bug
>>> reporting tool like this, you need to determine what information you need, then
>>> for each operating system you have to do the right things to get it, be that
>>> read a file, run a tool, or some other operation.
>>
>> Agree, there's no guarantee that /proc/some/file exists on a linux
>> distribution as there is no guarantee that an application is available.
>>
> Agreed.
>
>> For instance, using applications that are packaged in coreutils or
>> procps should not be an issue. But I would say that using applications
>> included in specific packages should be avoided, and in this case
>> the /proc interface can be better.
>>
> Why?  We just agreed that there is no guarantee that a file exists in /proc, so
> its no better or worse than using an application which may or may not be
> installed.  If the file is available, then great, you can use it, but otherwise
> you have to provide some alternate method for getting the data. Just not
> collecting some of it in my mind makes such a script not worthwhile

I'm just saying that on linux it is much more likely to have
/proc/meminfo (which is available since at least 2.4.x kernel) instead
of having a rare package providing a tool able to format /proc/meminfo.

On the other hand, using a common tool is preferable if we can expect
it is installed on most distributions.


> All I'm saying here is that if we want to provide this functionality we need to
> do one of the following:
>
> 1) Write a script (to remove ourselves from being bound to a build environment),
> which codifies the data items we wish to collect for debugging.  For each items
> we need a case statement of the form:
> switch $PLATFORM {
> 	CASE BSD:
> 		<do bsd collection>
> 	CASE LINUX:
> 		<do linux collection>
> 	CASE OSV:
> 		<do osv collection>
> }
>
> Where each case either cats a file or runs an appropriate tool (making the
> appropriate check for its avilability when needed).
>
> Or
>
> 2) Document the kind of data that we need when debugging, and make suggestions
> in said document for what types of tools/files might provide that data, and
> leaving it up to users to do the collection on their own.
>
> Given that we are likely to be talking about developers here, I'm inclined to go
> with option 2, given that its less maintenence to keep up with.
>

I think providing a script is a good idea to help people to give the
most common info when they report a problem. I don't think we will have
a lot of maintenance cost from this script.

Regards,
Olivier
  
Neil Horman March 25, 2015, 5:57 p.m. UTC | #7
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 06:42:34PM +0100, Olivier MATZ wrote:
> On 03/25/2015 06:22 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
> >On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 04:42:23PM +0100, Olivier MATZ wrote:
> >>On 03/25/2015 04:22 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
> >>>On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 04:06:10PM +0100, Olivier MATZ wrote:
> >>>>Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>On 03/24/2015 06:00 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
> >>>>>On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 02:52:59PM +0000, John McNamara wrote:
> >>>>>>Added a 'make system_info' target to print out system info
> >>>>>>related to DPDK. This is intended as output that can be
> >>>>>>attached to bug reports.
> >>>>>>---
> >>>>>>  mk/rte.sdkroot.mk | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>  1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>diff --git a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
> >>>>>>index e8423b0..b477d09 100644
> >>>>>>--- a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
> >>>>>>+++ b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
> >>>>>>@@ -123,3 +123,36 @@ examples examples_clean:
> >>>>>>  %:
> >>>>>>  	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkconfig.mk checkconfig
> >>>>>>  	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkbuild.mk $@
> >>>>>>+
> >>>>>>+.PHONY: system_info
> >>>>>>+system_info:
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo "CC version"
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo "=========="
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)$(CC) --version
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo
> >>>>>>+
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo "DPDK version"
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo "============"
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)$(MAKE) showversion
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo
> >>>>>>+
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo "Git commit"
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo "=========="
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)git log --pretty=format:'%H' -1
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo
> >>>>>>+
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo "Uname"
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo "====="
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)uname -srvmpio
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo
> >>>>>>+
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo "Hugepages"
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo "========="
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)grep -i huge /proc/meminfo
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo
> >>>>>>+
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)tools/cpu_layout.py
> >>>>>>+
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)tools/dpdk_nic_bind.py --status
> >>>>>>+	$(Q)echo
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>1.8.1.4
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>Nak, for a few reasons:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>1) While this target is in a common makefile, at least some of the information
> >>>>>it gathers is operating system specfic (e.g. /proc/meminfo).  This isn't going
> >>>>>to work on BSD, or other operating systems that we might support in the future
> >>>>>
> >>>>>2) This is tied to the build system.  Theres no guarantee that users will
> >>>>>diagnose problems only on the system that they built the DPDK on.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>A better solution might be to simply document the sort of information that a bug
> >>>>>reporter is expected to gather, along with some sample tools for doing so.
> >>>>>There are numerous tools to get the above information, both in isolation and in
> >>>>>aggregate.
> >>>>
> >>>>I agree with Neil that the Makefile is probably not the best place to
> >>>>put that because the target machine may not be the build machine. What
> >>>>about doing the same in a script? Therefore it could be embedded and
> >>>>executed on the target.
> >>>>
> >>>A script would be fine, as long as its cased for tools available on every OS.
> >>>
> >>>>Neil, you talk about tools that do the same kind of things. What tool
> >>>>are you thinking about? The problem of using external tools is that it
> >>>>adds a dependency with them.
> >>>>
> >>>Yes, but how is that different from the above?  running cat /proc/meminfo has a
> >>>dependency on the existance of /proc/meminfo, which is involate on BSD.  Theres
> >>>another file there that hold simmilar memory information, though, or perhaps a
> >>>memstat tool (I cant recall which).  The point being, to have an appropriate bug
> >>>reporting tool like this, you need to determine what information you need, then
> >>>for each operating system you have to do the right things to get it, be that
> >>>read a file, run a tool, or some other operation.
> >>
> >>Agree, there's no guarantee that /proc/some/file exists on a linux
> >>distribution as there is no guarantee that an application is available.
> >>
> >Agreed.
> >
> >>For instance, using applications that are packaged in coreutils or
> >>procps should not be an issue. But I would say that using applications
> >>included in specific packages should be avoided, and in this case
> >>the /proc interface can be better.
> >>
> >Why?  We just agreed that there is no guarantee that a file exists in /proc, so
> >its no better or worse than using an application which may or may not be
> >installed.  If the file is available, then great, you can use it, but otherwise
> >you have to provide some alternate method for getting the data. Just not
> >collecting some of it in my mind makes such a script not worthwhile
> 
> I'm just saying that on linux it is much more likely to have
> /proc/meminfo (which is available since at least 2.4.x kernel) instead
> of having a rare package providing a tool able to format /proc/meminfo.
> 
Ok, I think either I was unclear, or you misunderstood.  I'm in now way opposed
to executing /proc/meminfo when its available, Im just saying that we have to do
it in the 'linux case' of the pseudo code below.  We need to do something
different for BSD/OSV because they don't have /proc/meminfo.  They may have a
different file to read, or need a specific tool to run.

the one thing we can do is just unilaterally run cat /proc/meminfo because on
any non-linux platform, you won't get any data, which is the goal.

I'm fine with just documenting the ways to get it, or codifying it in a script,
I'm just pointing out that a script will have to be special cased for each OS
Neil
  
John McNamara March 25, 2015, 6:11 p.m. UTC | #8
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Horman [mailto:nhorman@tuxdriver.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 5:22 PM
> To: Olivier MATZ
> Cc: Mcnamara, John; dev@dpdk.org
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] mk: added make target to print out system
> info
> 
> > For instance, using applications that are packaged in coreutils or
> > procps should not be an issue. But I would say that using applications
> > included in specific packages should be avoided, and in this case the
> > /proc interface can be better.
> >
> Why?  We just agreed that there is no guarantee that a file exists in
> /proc, so its no better or worse than using an application which may or
> may not be installed.  If the file is available, then great, you can use
> it, but otherwise you have to provide some alternate method for getting
> the data. Just not collecting some of it in my mind makes such a script
> not worthwhile
> 
> All I'm saying here is that if we want to provide this functionality we
> need to do one of the following:
> 
> 1) Write a script (to remove ourselves from being bound to a build
> environment), which codifies the data items we wish to collect for
> debugging.  For each items we need a case statement of the form:
> switch $PLATFORM {
> 	CASE BSD:
> 		<do bsd collection>
> 	CASE LINUX:
> 		<do linux collection>
> 	CASE OSV:
> 		<do osv collection>
> }
> 
> Where each case either cats a file or runs an appropriate tool (making the
> appropriate check for its avilability when needed).
> 
> Or
> 
> 2) Document the kind of data that we need when debugging, and make
> suggestions in said document for what types of tools/files might provide
> that data, and leaving it up to users to do the collection on their own.
> 
> Given that we are likely to be talking about developers here, I'm inclined
> to go with option 2, given that its less maintenence to keep up with.
> 

Hi Neil,

I think you are probably right that documentation is the way to deal with this. 

I'll drop the patch and submit a checklist document with information that should be supplied when reporting bugs. It doesn't have to be added to the DPDK docs. It could be added to dpdk.org or just live in an email on the mailing list that we can point people to.

The main goal is to avoid having to pull relevant information out of people over a series of emails. Perhaps it may prove not to be necessary in practice.

I can add sample shell scripts for Linux/FreeBSD at the end of the doc, to cover Oliver's suggestion about consistency of reporting. Users of other OSes can add similar text if they think it is useful.

John
  

Patch

diff --git a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
index e8423b0..b477d09 100644
--- a/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
+++ b/mk/rte.sdkroot.mk
@@ -123,3 +123,36 @@  examples examples_clean:
 %:
 	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkconfig.mk checkconfig
 	$(Q)$(MAKE) -f $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.sdkbuild.mk $@
+
+.PHONY: system_info
+system_info:
+	$(Q)echo
+	$(Q)echo "CC version"
+	$(Q)echo "=========="
+	$(Q)$(CC) --version
+	$(Q)echo
+
+	$(Q)echo "DPDK version"
+	$(Q)echo "============"
+	$(Q)$(MAKE) showversion
+	$(Q)echo
+
+	$(Q)echo "Git commit"
+	$(Q)echo "=========="
+	$(Q)git log --pretty=format:'%H' -1
+	$(Q)echo
+
+	$(Q)echo "Uname"
+	$(Q)echo "====="
+	$(Q)uname -srvmpio
+	$(Q)echo
+
+	$(Q)echo "Hugepages"
+	$(Q)echo "========="
+	$(Q)grep -i huge /proc/meminfo
+	$(Q)echo
+
+	$(Q)tools/cpu_layout.py
+
+	$(Q)tools/dpdk_nic_bind.py --status
+	$(Q)echo